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Taylor
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posted 02-05-2008 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor   Click Here to Email Taylor     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone ever tested someone with a pacemaker? I definitely wouldn't touch this one without a doctor’s release - but I don't even know if that would be feasible. Taylor

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Barry C
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posted 02-05-2008 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I never have, but it shouldn't be a problem. They generally only kick in when the heart beats too slowly. You'd just have to see what you get. It's really going to depend on your subject.

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stat
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posted 02-05-2008 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
I have yet to see a SINGLE DOCTOR sign off on a polygraph test. If I were a physician, I wouldn't tangle myself in such a liability "green light."

I turn down every pacemaker case, without exception.
I have no doubt that a jury would find such a test as careless and even punitive if something went wrong.
Dick Cheney would only be my personal exception (lol).

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Barry, sorry about the Brady Bunch. Maybe next year---provided that the Colts give your team another freebee.

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sackett
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posted 02-05-2008 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
Donna,

I have tested two (that I can remember) and found that it presented no problems. What I recall was the cardio was fairly stable and the reactions will be minimal. Also, I recall the GSR being minimal as well due to the age of the examinee. Used lotion, problem solved.

stat - not only have I had doctor's releases in the past, but I just had a psychiatrist sign off on a former soldier, suffering from PTSD, depression and anxiety (stable in his opinion and on drugs, of course). He failed and confessed. Good thing...

Jim

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stat
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posted 02-05-2008 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Of course I have to qualify my above statement with the fact that no 3rd party doctors have ever been involved ----and all of my examinee's probably coaxed their physicians into not giving a stamp of approval----at the very least due to most doctor's not knowing just what goes into a polygraph test. The 8 or so doctor's that I have spoken to personally have all remarked that they thought polygraph was a sham/ pseudoscience---which only measured nervousness or even incidence (unintentional) of hypyerstress or heart malady.

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stat
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posted 02-05-2008 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
In the past when I have tested individuals with PTSD and other anxiety disorders (medicated) and even mild forms of psychosis (lifelong)---I had to stipulate with others involved that the test was only used for informational reasons and that no test result in and of itself can be actionable in any way----but you probably do the same, right?
I tread VERY carefully with people with official diagnosis of neurosis (usually short-term and efectively medicated) and especially psychosis (lifelong and iffy regarding medicinal success.)

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